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Adele - top tune
Posted by Sven Garlic on 29 January 2011 - 6:16pm.
I heard this on the radio the other day and thought at first it was KT Tunstall. Then I thought, hey, this is quite something - really a very good record indeed and learnt it was Adele's new single. Not what I expected from the Chasing Pavements hitmaker.
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I don't see what the fuss is about...
To me she's yet another one of those female singers with incredibly irritating voices that are clogging up the charts like so much effluent. Kooky and showy, over-emotive and influenced by the hideous Mariah Carey Textbook of Proper Singing. Pass.
Really?
I never had any interest before but I like this. I think she sings it pretty straight and soulfully. Nothing like Mariah Carey's show off warbling and wailing to me - and I can't stand that style either.
Mariah Carey was probably a bad example...
I don't know... all these Duffys, Adeles, Amys... they all sound the bloody same to me.
Was it Dave Quantick
who said "Mariah Carey holds a note like Michael Jackson holds a baby: too high, for too long, with everyone around shouting 'Stop!'"
Old fashioned
Adele is an old fashioned bluesy singer, absolutely nothing like the "million notes a bar but not hitting one that matters" school of modern vocalist. She sings a song straight and to my ears at least means it,
For instance...
...where's the over emoting on this one? Subtle and soulful in my opinion...
There is a quality in her voice that I hear...
in so many contemporary singers, and I dislike it. The trouble is, I can't really put it into words properly. It's a kind of quiver in the voice that is supposed to convey "authenticity", whatever that is.
I think I'll leave Adele's musical charms for others to enjoy - she's not my thing at all.
Scary Carey?
I don't agree. It's not so much Careyism as as sort of neo-Bonnie Tyler approach, if you think about it. Rather too much belting involved for my taste, but, hell, at least she's not Duffy, so I'd convert Patrick's pass into a pass mark. The song's got a tune and she sings it well. (Whether I'd buy it is something else entirely, but lumping her in with rentamelisma divas seems a bit uncharitable, that's all.)
Melismatising
There's a little bit of that going on with Adele but she's more subtle than most with it. I like her voice but have yet to hear her sing a song I'd be happy to hear a lot of.
Duffy's voice, on the other hand, sets my teeth on edge and I cannot abide her. Lily Allen is not really a singer at all, in my opinion (yet again) but not a bad lyricist. Kate Nash is just really annoying, both in her voice and her songwriting and I see no point in her making records at all. Rumer's voice and songwriting are excellent and as soon as she learns to relax and project a bit better she's sure to do well.
I do understand
what Patrick means, there is an sameness about many of these girl singers more Winehouse than Carey in my opinion. But there is something about Adele that makes me believe she'll be the one still doing it in 20 years time and still being spoken of in glowing terms.
I think this is rather good, "Chasing Pavements" with Paul Weller
Like the voice. Love the band and production.
I will give her new lp a listen on the strength of this tune. I believe she may have a great record in her, although maybe not yet. Perhaps with the right collaborator..?
I did like "Chasing Pavements" as a song
and what bits of the new album I've heard seem pretty good. It is more Amy W than Mariah C.
The absolute truth is that Amy is on a plane far above Adele and Duffy and the like and if she can get her life back on track instead of turning into a caricature Diva/Victim a la The Camden Holiday the better.
Definitely a Winehouse ripoff
It's all those moments when the voice seems to be about to crack. And the deliberately singing slightly off the note.
I'm not a musician so I don't know how else to explain it but it's true that a lot of singers are adopting this style and it's a bit irritating.
As per original poster
When i first heard it on the radio - I too thought it was KT Tunstall.
I quite like the record and will probably have a listen to her new LP on the strength of it - thats all !
New Album
New album worth a listen, especially as it was only £3 to download it from Amazon. There are a couple of really good piano led ballads, good luck to her she's ok.
Amy Winehouse
Duffy. Plan B. Adele. Pixie Lott. Gabriella Cilmi. I don't what you call that genre of music (English soul?), but I can't bear it.
Pop music?
And Duffy's Welsh. And Gabriella's an Aussie.
Pop music?
Not really specific enough.
She does have a couple of annoying quirks
especially her over-anglicising of certain words ("Keep me thinking that we could have had it ooll") but I think she has real potential. Perhaps not the finished article yet but way, way better than Duffy et al. Rolling in the Deep is an awesome tune and thanks to carl adlam's tipoff I've headed straight over to a certain online retailer to pick the album up for £3.99.
Agree with OP
She is a damn fine singer.
New album
Has three good songs on it. The rest are overblown ballads that just make me think of X-Factor. I find the album unlistenable as a whole. She needs to learn when to belt it out and when to show a little calm.
I kind of agree
that the singing is a little mannered - there is a slight put on exaggerated emotion, like over acting, in her style, but the strength of the tune and quality of the music and production is enough for me to overlook that and enjoy it as a record. It sounded great on the radio when I was driving.
I'm not actually particularly keen on this retro movement - Duffy, Winehouse etc. and I thought I'd had enough of it, but this record seems a bit more contemporary to me. Winehouse I find is a little too self consciously retro on Back To Black - well I suppose that's down to Mark Ronson as much as anything. I didn't really expect to enjoy an Adele record but I like this one a lot.
She was interviewed on a Guardian podcast
She was interviewed on a Guardian podcast a couple of years ago and was talking about how she had covered "a really obscure Bob Dylan song no one has heard", which was 'Make You Feel My Love' from Time Out Of Mind. I might be wrong, but I thought quite a lot of people had bought Time Out Of Mind.
'Rolling In The Deep' doesn't grab me and I wasn't fussed on 'Chasing Pavements' either I'm afraid, but I do like that one she did on Jools recently (posted above).
Aren't all Dylan songs obscure to most?
Outside of the £50 man / Word Massive / monthlies purchasing audience.
Let's look at the hits, shall we?
9 Bob Dylan Times They Are A-Changin Mar 1965
9 Bob Dylan Subterranean Homesick Blues Apr 1965
22 Bob Dylan Maggie's Farm Jun 1965
4 Bob Dylan Like A Rolling Stone Aug 1965
8 Bob Dylan Positively Fourth Street Oct 1965
17 Bob Dylan Can You Please Crawl Out Of Your Window Jan 1966
33 Bob Dylan One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) Apr 1966
7 Bob Dylan Rainy Day Women Nos 12 And 35 May 1966
16 Bob Dylan I Want You Jul 1966
30 Bob Dylan I Threw It All Away May 1969
5 Bob Dylan Lay Lady Lay Sep 1969
24 Bob Dylan Watching The River Flow Jul 1971
14 Bob Dylan Knockin On Heaven's Door Oct 1973
13 Bob Dylan Baby Stop Crying Jul 1978
33 Bob Dylan Dignity May 1995
A decent haul of hits in the sixties, yes. That said, I consider myself an old git and I was minus four the last time Dylan tickled the top ten. When I can bring myself to listen to oldies stations I don't hear a lot of Dylan, either.
Time Out Of Mind grazed the top ten thirteen years ago and has shipped gold, so we can estimate sales of somewhere over 100k. How many of those purchasers were in Adele's age range, given she herself was aged 8 when it came out?
I don't think it's unreasonable for Adele to view the song as obscure, as Dylan just doesn't cross over to that many people who haven't been buying his records since the sixties.
That may be an uncomfortable point of view to encounter on this forum in particular. This is a great place to share viewpoints with like minds, but let's not pretend we're representative.
Obscure
I suppose it's just the definition of obscure being used by someone releasing a record - I could see it if it was a b-side, bootleg or "basement tape", but an album-track from the more recent end of one of the biggest names of all time didn't seem like it fit the bill. I'm not surprised she didn't know it, that wasn't the observation, it was the idea of "if I don't know it then it's obscure" which I was observing. I was 14 when Time Out Of Mind was released and I'm no Dylan-expert.
The first thing I thought
The first thing I thought was Adele must have been listening to Feist's version of Sea Lion Woman quite a lot.
Good song though.
All these young girls
should first clean this woman's shoes
I can't believe
..nobody's mentioned Joss Stone yet.
I think that...
was probably a good thing.
Doh!
Coat gotten....