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Adele
Posted by niscum on 7 December 2011 - 3:08pm.
Can anyone explain this phenomenon to me.
I seem to have missed it and she is everywhere all the time and spoken of as a serious artist in the Amy Winehouse vein. I think I've heard her on the wireless, and seen her picture too.
Real deal or flash in the pan?
(I need to be equipped with 'down with the kids' opinions for Christmas - the youngsters think I have a clue.)
Ta
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My view
I like her. The fact that she is insanely popular may point to her being rather conventional for some people's tastes, but her appearance proves she is being bought for her music not her fashion. 21 is just about the only album that is liked by me, my GLW and our 9 year olds.
I like her.
If she can keep her voice intact, I see her going on to great things, which she's not achieved yet. Right now, she's a gifted singer-songwriter who's done some corking stuff, and some quite bland stuff. With the right people around her, she's got the potential for greatness.
By the way, if anyone mentions Alison Moyet from here on in, I shall unilaterally set aside the "Swearing" thread and go, erm, ape-poo.
Ah, the lovely Alison...
...for whom I long ago coined the phrase "stentorian hooting", which I'd like to see used a lot more in print when discussing her oeuvre.
"If she can keep her voice intact"
A valid point. To be undergoing laryngeal surgery at her tender age does not bode well for someone who is an undoubted talent.
Maybe its
a by product of over use (steady, Mr L) as I'm guessing with the way she gabbles on she's rarely rested her voice on or offstage for the past couple of years
I'm wondering.
She's an open-larynx belter, as against the currently-prevalent honkers. To sing in such a way normally takes a fair amount of technique and tuition. How much has she been given, I wonder?
Adele
Her appeal seems obvious to me. I've heard both albums and whilst that style of music isn't generally to my taste, there are some really good songs on both, and her voice is fantastic.
Someone Like You is a modern standard - it'll pass the test of time.
ubiquity and that
I suspect that her sheer ubiquity on radio is what is putting a lot of people off. '21' is a very good album from a very talented young singer-songwriter.
Perhaps some folk have also taken the hump after her comments on her £4 million tax bill.
She's keeping
the country afloat by the sounds of it ..
Tax
Her tax comments were blown out of proportion. It was a throwaway remark made in jest. Sadly, people rarely overlook a chance to appear prolier than thou.
PARROT
In the room. I like her music, not every song, but theres enough thats good. I really like her voice.
I also have a pop star crush. Amazing eyes and the dirtiest cackle. I hear she makes very good pub company.
Indeed.
I'd love to have a pint with Adele and talk about football and records. She'd make a great Word blogger!
I saw her live a few years back
...at some Radio 2 showcase thing. I wasn't looking forward to her as I had found her debut album a little dull. The power went off during her first song and, in the dark, she sang an entirely accoustic cover of Brown Eyed Girl and entertained everyone with cheeky comments and a 50-a-day laugh. She won me - and I suspect many others - comepletely over.
Some of 21 is very good, some of it is a dirge, but there's no denying there's something special about her. She'll be around for a while yet.
Don't go a bundle on her records
but seen live bits and pieces and she's a slightly barmy, cackling and golden voiced marvel. and she's only a baby so we can forgive her saying the odd unwise flippant comment.
I'm glad that the media haven't seen fit to bang on about her being "a big girl" or similar nonsense just cos she doesn't fit into the pop popette mould.
And yes, a filthy laugh to rival Sid James
yeah - she's good
I don't listen to much daytime radio, so I don't suffer from the overplay syndrome that a lot of people do. Sitting down to read a book, I've put on 21 a few times and it's a fine album. It doesn't sound like it was put together with a view to being a HUGE album - it's just turned out that way, and more power to her elbow, say I!
Her concert rider has apparently been "leaked"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16066536
Tea, honey, bottled water? Donations to charity? Where's the bourbon, cocaine, well hung young men?
I don't know, young people today...
I like that...
I like the way if s'lebs manage to wangle their way into a sold out gig, they have to make a 'contribution' to a charity.
Rolling In The Deep is superb
and has Rick Rubin's prints all over it. The rest is a bit oversung bland balladry which doesn't do much for me. And I still don't know how to chase a pavement.
Seconded
That's the stand out track - by far the best thing on it.
are pavement still going?
Damon Albarn will help you with that.
Oddly enough
Mrs T was saying today that she'd heard her and liked her - which is the album to get then? 21? It's not on Spotty. Ideally one with no glam/disco/synth pop. I have no idea if that's her thing or not, never having heard her.
Update - having listened on Spotty I like her voice but there are a bewildering array of different mixes, some with the generic euromotrik beat slapped on (do these people think they are doing something original when they add that??). So what's 21 like then?
Two albums
The first 19, which is jazzier pop with a Bob Dylan cover and the latest 21. Everything is on those if you want to avoid remixes.
19
Just listening to 19 on Sppotty. Enjoyable, though I could live without the glottal stops. I don' really lik' i'.
21
While I like the latest it has moments that sound like they were written with America in mind. And a slight 'serious musician' feel to a couple of bits. Take the more downbeat moments of 19 and you've got 21.
rather good
I think she shows a lot of promise. Rather like a modern day Alison Moyet if you will. She has a great voice and some good material. investiagte and enjoy.
Points up ^
...er, Bob's apparently going to swear at you.
Moyet
I'm still waiting for someone to point out the similarity to Alison Moyet in Adele's music or vocals. It's like comparing Paolo Nutini to Dave Gahan.
Oh shit...
I've just done a really funny comment, that someone else has already made - that'll teach me to read the whole thread before posting.
Surely not
considering the recent thread on swearing.
Well, obviously I'm not.
But she's nothing like Alison Moyet. Spartacus recently put this better than me.
Thank you
To put my cards on the table Wezz, I believe that anyone comparing Adele to Moyet is doing so because they're both 'plus size' female singers.
Musically, they're nothing alike.
I disagree.
They both sound EXACTLY like Mama Cass to me.
that's
not a bad thing.
You said 'sound' right?
Some good songs.
Delivery far too mannered for my liking.
*reaches for Dionne Warwick disc*
My initial reaction
She sounds like some marketing man has said "what we need is a cross between Amy Winehouse and Lily Allen, ideally off the smack and with a modicum of consistency, Ahhh, there's one!!!"
and
what is wrong with that? Admittedly it is not going to change the world, but if we are reducing our listening to that then it going to be pretty much just the Beatles and Elvis. And no successful band doesnt have a marketing man somewhere in the background.
Been an Adele fan since 19
I actually liked her first album, 19, better than the second one, which I thought had only a couple really good songs on it.
Worse, for her, is that those few songs from her new album are so overplayed (at least on American radio) that they've become annoying in the extreme. My own teenage daughter and her friends are so sick of Adele songs that they groan every time Someone Like You or Rolling in the Deep comes on the radio in the car and then they quickly change the station. That's not good news for Adele, though it's the fault of our horrible radio stations here, not Adele's fault.
hah - they're not the only ones...
from the old news dept, Waltons, Georges St, Dublin
"No Michael Nyman or Fur Elise"
My, they're a bit eclectic around those parts. When I worked in the Guitar shop, it was no Stairway or Smoke on the Water!
No
To me, I'm afraid, she's a bit of a foghorn amongst the babble.
I like the idea of her; an apparently strong, capable and talented young writer and performer laying waste to the charts with powerful emotional ballads.
Nothing I've heard her sing yet has moved me though. I'm aware of long 'ooooooooooooooooo' sounds now and again and it seems to be her.
I think she's marvellous
A geniune talent and a breath of fresh air. Listen again to the first three & last three tracks on 21 to be moved.
It's a crime she didn't appear in Mojo's Uncut's nor NME's top 50 of the year. A clear case of snobbery purely because she is popular. How can anyone rate Florence better than Adele??!!
I never thought I would hear myself say this but
she sings well, there are enough good tracks on both albums (the GLW's I must point out at this point), she is not stick thin, she appears well grounded and dare I say normal. What's not to like? (begins errecting sandbags and waits for someone to point out what there is not too like)
The sort of girl
I'd be happy for one of my boys to bring home. Some top tunes too that will absolutely stand the test of time, voice permitting Adele will be with us for a long time.
Can't stand her
I've heard the album more often than most albums that I actually like and it is now in the region of physically painful to listen to. Her default vocal setting is bellow, she appears incapable of subtlety, even on someone like you she shouts through the entire song. I am extremely aware that I'm in a minority on this.
No strong opinion
which sort of begs the question: what the hell am I doing on this thread?
*flees*
Thumbs up
from me. I think she is a rare talent and has the chance to achieve even more if her voice holds out. I am a little worried as I see parallels with Paul Young whose voice went prematurely. Hopefully she can cope with the pressures that will come her way - after all, the top selling cd of the century means she will have every Tom,Dick or Harry falling over each other to get a piece of the action.
I must be the only
one who never got Paul Young. He used to play the pub circuit around luton and watford in the 70s and my brother raved about him. I wanted to like him but I just never understood all the fuss.
Well apparently she
is going to take some time off, maybe a couple of years, hope the machine lets her do that. She seems the sort not to let herself be pushed into just churning out pap.
I didnt either
I was referring more to the fact that his voice went. Didnt much care for his material same with Mick Hucknall. Of that ilk I much preferred Robert Palmer.
"Of that ilk"?
How dare you lump Robert Palmer in with Paul Young and Mick Hucknall; neither of whom was ever fit to tie his shoelaces?
You're talking about a man who was a peer of Jess Roden and who had Little Feat play on his albums, so highly regarded was he.
*adopts wide-eyed look of utter outrage and astonishment*
Ha!
I could tell reading those last few posts that the whole Paul Young/Mick Hucknall thing would end in tears.
You're right of course
Vulpes - I was referring to white singers influenced by soul at that time. Hucknall had one good song Holding back the years. Good voice but bad choice of songs and an awful band. Same with Young. Palmer displayed much more good taste and had some cracking songs. However even he was prone to the odd clunker - 'You are in my system' being an example.
Jess Roden was phenomenal. Where do you stand on Roger Chapman?
Hopefully on his larynx.............
(Nah, just kidding, love his permawarble really)
Roger is an acquired taste.
I acquired it long ago rolling and tumbling my way through 'Burlesque' and 'Strange Band' on 45, then all the Family albums, and then seeing him with the Streetwalkers and other incarnations, sweating his way through gargantuan sets of blistering blues rock. Love the guy.
PS 'You Are In My System' is so late period RP as to be almost beyond consideration; I strongly recommend Sneaking Sally Through The Alley as the place to start!