Entertainment For Lively Minds
A First
I have a confession to make: I've never left a gig early. I've always stayed to the end, even when it was Bob Dylan in 1991.
However, until last night. After an hour and a bit of Ryan Adams and The Cardinals playing yet another song that sounded just like the last one, and Adams' way too accurate description of "here's another depressing and monotonous song, folks", two friends and I just looked each other and said to hell with it. Not motivated by a desire to get a Victoria Line tube before they stopped, not because we fancied an early night; just bored. Bored bored bored. And, by the looks of things, a fair bunch of punters felt worse, as they left Brixton Academy before we did.
I've never felt such apathy at a gig before.
Make me feel better. Tell me your stories.
Edit: Woah! I can't believe that this post was being written at the same time as the one beneath it.
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I love that!
tell me you were both typing at the same time and your post Lucas is not in response. So very funny, i guess the youf would want to laugh out loud , in an abbreviated style
That.
Is. Amazing.
I'm interviewing Adams at four. Shall I tell him?
You can't please all the people.....
Oh, do, David . Please do.
Wish I had seen this before four
I would have asked you to tell him ...
PLAY SOME OLD !
I would
i think its only fair
Well...
We were definitely typing at the same time! As I said, it wasn't that the Brixton gig was bad, it just wasn't worth sticking around for. I liked it when he, to coin a phrase, "did some old", but I've found what I've heard of his last, ooh, five albums to be largely just efficiently performed and dull. Sorry. I absolutely love some of his music, particularly Heartbreaker, Gold and Love Is Hell, and I've seen him live four times now; and he's never been great, but always interesting. But, I'm afraid to say, last night he wasn't even that.
I'd be curious to know what Adams thought of this, David; but I also can guess, given what he said about bloggers' opinions of him at a show I saw in February 2006. Namely, that they should focus their dissatisfaction on something creative, rather than just ranting from the comfort of their laptops, and get a life.
that is TFU [ the fuckest
that is TFU [ the fuckest upest]

ob viously more on form in birmingham than london
David can you show him this, please ??
My other half bought one of those...
...in our local garage last week. She loves it - big buttons and there's no chance of EVER losing it
I saw him a few years ago in Liverpool
and the highlight of the gig was when he fell off stage and broke his arm...(I suppose he does it at every gig, but I found it amusing)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/3423321.stm, in case anyone missed it at the time
Agreed
I posted on the other thread before I saw this one so I won't say it all again but essentially I'm with you. I saw Adams on Sunday and it was a very boring gig. I would probably have left early but I was with freinds and thought it would be rude. Not quite as rude as he is though. I think if people have paid to come and see you play you should at least acknowledge their presence.
Liverpool gig....
That gig took place at the Royal Court - (one for the prog tour dates)where I was assistant manager at the time. The manager of the venue was off sick that day and so this was my first gig in charge and naturally I was bricking it. Ryan had apparently been acting strangely all day and had allegedly purchased a number of different 'refreshments'. By the time he went on the crowd were very aggresive and there was constant heckling. He wasn't helping matters by playing the pretty dull 'Rock n Roll' album at the time. About half way through the gig it all clicked and he started playing really well but then he started climbing one of the amplifiers and unsuprisingly given what he had consumed fell off. I was at the side of the stage trying to persuade the security not to kill him when he fell. His arm smashed against one of the barriers and made a sickening crunch and when he came to it was pointing out at right angles. I was forced to put the house lights on which resulted in the crowd rushing the stage and throwing anything they could get their hands on.Ryan meanwhile was being bundled into a car by the promoter and driven to the Royal Hospital. The last I heard of him was a scream of "no National Health - I'm insured!"
I spent the next day fielding calls from papers all over the country not to mention the health and safety executive and the licensing people. It was this exact moment I decided to move into journalism and away from gig promotion.
Please mention all this to him will you David?
"no National Health - I'm insured!"
Perfect tombstone inscription! What an arsehole.....
Bupa didn't have any casualty departments last time I looked!
But, being a septic...
he wouldn't have known that :-)
"no National Health - I'm insured!"
...Ha! Genius!
I've been seized with apathy at gigs, that curious sense that you should be enjoying yourself, but somehow aren't. I can only remember walking out of one though, which was Texas (at the Bristol Studio, back when their first big hit came out (87?). They were perfectly competent and everyone else seemed to be enjoying themselves, but by golly, it was all a bit dull.
So, David...
I can't be the only one who wants to know. How was the interview?
Oh, very strange
It was in connection with a programme I'm doing for Radio Four about bootlegs. Adams encourages fans to record his shows so we wanted to get his view. Of all the people I've interviewed, he was among the vaguer ones but I think we got some interesting stuff.
I certainly gleaned that he didn't look upon gigs as most musicians did. He didn't divide them into stormers on one hand and disasters on the other. He simply saw them as the way he spent every night. Each was unique like snowflakes.
I told him that we'd had two simultaneous posts, expressing different views on last night's show. I don't think he understood just what a coincidence this was. Can't expect him to, I suppose.
Anyway, his response was something along these lines. Maybe the person who didn't enjoy it will be inspired to do something beautiful as a consequence, as might the person who did like it.
See. Told you.
Funnily enough...
I have been creatively inspired this very day to pursue an artistic strand of my life that has remained dormant for the best part of a decade. Can't say that Ryan Adams had anything to do with it, but you never know!
Adams' generosity about fans recording his gigs certainly allows the opportunity to re-examine concerts in half decent sound quality. The February 2006 gig that I spoke of is very interesting: it sounds like a therapy session; almost like listening to Adams' nervous system break into pieces and reassemble itself. And that rant about online critics is, well, apt, I guess.
If anyone's interested:
http://www.archive.org/details/radams2006-02-24.sbd.flac16
A walk along Cringe Avenue
I know, I know... but I would be SO tempted to ask him why he didn't play 'Run to You' or 'Summer of '69'
I know...
now you mention it
Bryan Adams at least does have some sense of his obligation to his audience.
Ryan
I was in London this week and I was really tempted to go and see Ryan, but in the end I didn't, and I wish I had. Surely his gig must have been better than the lastest Bond film which I saw instead; it is rubbish, vastly inferior to Casino Royal. As for walking out of gigs, I admit I left Marillion's gig on the last song on Wed night, partly as I couldn't remember what time the last tube home was and I was getting bored! Terrible encore choices which tested my patience and this comes from a loyal fan for many years. Quite liked the Forum as a venue though.
Bond vs. Adams
I was pleasantly surprised by the new Bond film. I haven't been surprised by Ryan Adams in five years.
walking out
Ok then Im ready to testify.
1. The Pogues. Brixton Academy. 17th March 1987( or maybe 86?.) Very sadly i just didn't get it.All noise and sweat and a lot of very drunk people.I was going through my sober phase at the time.)Love the records but live, nope not for me, i bailed after about 45 mins.
2. Queen. Knebworth 1986. Last ever performance with Freddie Mercury. Left , after about 25 minutes. I remember being bored rigid.I was at the front and it took about 15 minutes to get through the crowd