75%
Posted by James Blast on 11 May 2008 - 11:01pm.
I posit that 75% of what is posted on here is of no interest to 75% of us
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I posit that 75% of what is posted on here is of no interest to 75% of us
If so .....
Why make both percentages higher ?
I got
a quarter of the way through this post and found I couldn't be bothered....
I disagree
...I think it's more like 78%.
Never mind that.75%.What about this one ?
Anyone else noticed that 75& of posts are now like essays?.I think some of them are trying to get noticed as writers by David H and Mark E and are looking for jobs with The Word
I don't know...
...but I suspect, that if these starry-eyed seekers after truth knew the going rate for a Word staffer, their quest would stall.
I'm betting it's larger ...
...than my rate.
Not that I'm after a Word job - just a better job than the one I have right now...
Pity the Afflicted...
... Alas I, like countless others, suffer from a rare and debilitating condition known as Compulsive Typing Disorder. Left near a keyboard for more than 25 seconds, we are unable to restrain ourselves from gushing out 1,000 words on a random topic. I mean, sure, there are treatments but there's only so much genito-electro shock therapy one man can endure.
The figures back it up...
Over the last couple of weeks, it's getting rare for a thread to receive even ten replies. Just have a look to the right of your screen. At the time of writing, the most popular topic of the past week has 30 replies, but the tenth most popular thread of the last month has 74 posts.
In short, it's all gone a bit quiet really.
PS - On 6Music, Lauren Laverne just uttered the words, "It's nine minutes to Lamb". Has a more terrifying prospect ever been spoken? I interpret that as "It's nine minutes until you change the station."
It's called diversification, innit
Where before there'd be only two or three new blog entries a day, with most of the day's posts being replies to them, recently more people have been taking the plunge and starting threads rather than just replying to existing ones. I think the total number of posts is probably much the same (Fraser'll know) - there are just a lot more threads to distribute all the replies among, so it just seems as though there's less activity in general.
I actually think the blog right now is perkier than it's ever been, with a wide variety of approaches - from the wordy and earnest posts (guilty, your Honour) to the smart-arse one-liners (er, that too, your Honour) - discussing a nice spread of topics (music, telly, films, books, leisure in general. . . ).
(Cue no responses at all.)
Maybe Word readers are too polite?
I used to be addicted to a discussion forum back in Web1.0 days and any duff topics were greeted with "Zzzzzzzzzzzzz". Made you ruthlessly self-edit, that's for sure...
I think you are correct here.
(tumbleweed)
It's all about attention spans
there's a rabbit! A fricking rabbit! A real live rabbit! Oh it's a cushion.
I noticed that
I have suggested that the Blog needs some moderation, not in terms of introducing a delay in responses being displayed (this killed the BBC message boards), but in terms of the 'lead' topics that can be posted. A Quality layer, if you like. Topics started by DH/AH/RF/FL/ME generally all receive more replies than the great unwashed.
Having said this, I guess these people who write lengthy Blog topics (or worse, lists of what they are listening to) and get few replies won't bother in future.
Lauren Laverne?
No-one told me the breakfast pillock was on holiday. (please tell me it's a permenant arrangement)
76%
The total number of posts is about the same - although generally these things ebb and flow and change shape and diversify and some people leave and more join in and other factors come into play like the day of the week and the time of day and whether it's summer or winter and if it's summer how warm it is outside and whether or not people are on holiday.
As for 'lead topics', we kind of do this already - we can make posts 'sticky' (in which case they become fixed at the top of the blog homepage, and newer contributions are placed below them) or add them as highlights to the box at the top of the site homepage. I wouldn't really want it to become more complicated than this - at the moment it's a reasonable balance between drawing attention to the best contributions and giving everyone a fair crack of the whip.
Fine
I think it works fine. It has been warm lately - one should be outside enjoying it, not writing bollocks on the internet (grabs hat and heads for door)
I’ve just scrolled down...
...the front page of this blog and all I see is enthusiasm. Who cares if someone wants to write an essay. It’s content with effort behind it. If it doesn’t interest you, then you don’t have to read it. A few days from now it will be sliding off the front page.
A perennial problem with internet communities is that established members, who often joined a website early and have adopted it as their home, develop a misguided sense of ownership that manifests as unwritten rules and snide comments directed at new posters. In reality it’s the fresh blood that keeps online forums from stagnating and getting too cliquey.
I like the civil tone of this website. There are other message boards linked to music magazines where the core membership has long since lost respect for their hosts and for each other. They’re not pleasant places to visit.
Never mind the width - feel the quality*
Agreed. The general quality of the writing, observation and thinking here is higher, and the content more thought-provokingly or coffee-splurtingly entertaining (and often both), than any other open-house blog I'm aware of.
So not everything is to your taste? Hey, I don't much care for radishes, but I certainly wouldn't bitch if I saw them on a menu at El Bulli.
(*Note to self: Must check out whether Joe Lynch was ever signed by Pye.)
The notion of bitching about radishes...
is now firmly fixed in my memory. Not quite 'coffee-splurtingly entertaining' (my Nescafe stayed in gob), but very entertaining nevertheless...
El Bulli
Ever been, Archie?
(Is it time for a Michelin starred theme in this blog?)
Well that gives us an "interestingness quotient" of 43.75%
which isn't a bad score at the moment. I mean, have you SEEN the weather outside?
A pedant writes
Basically Brother Blast is simply approximating Pareto's 80 / 20 law which states that 80% of effects come from 20% of the causes. Or in simpler terms, when doing a job in the time it takes to complete you'll spend 20% of the time doing 80% of it and the remaining 20% of the task will take 80% of the time. But it has wider applications than that.
I read once that...
95% of the job will take 95% of the time.
The remaining 5% will take another 95% of the time...
Very true sometimes.
Statisticians Blues - Todd Snider
They say 3 percent of the people use 5 to 6 percent of their brain
97 percent use 3 percent and the rest goes down the drain
I'll never know which one I am but I'll bet you my last dime
99 percent think with 3 percent 100 percent of the time
65 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
Too much to think about
Too much to figure out
Stuck between hope and doubt
It's too much to think about
They say 74 percent of everything you learned in college is a bunch of bullshit you'll never need
83.4 percent of everything you got you bought to satisfy your greed
Because 91 percent of the world's population links possessions to success
Even though 88 percent of the wealthiest 1 percent of the population
Drinks to an alarming excess
More money, more stress
It's too much to think about
Too much to figure out
Stuck between hope and doubt
It's too much to think about
Pick it then
74 percent of all statisticians truly hate their fuckin job
The average bank robber lives within say about 20 miles of the bank that he robs
There's this little bank not far from here I've been watching now for a while
Lately all I can think about's how bad I wanna go out in style
Too much to think about
Too much to figure out
Stuck between hope and doubt
It's too much to think about
That's right
It's too much to think about
Amen
It's too much to think about
Nice one
'nuff said.
If only 25 percent
of us are interested in the content on this site I dont understand why you wasted your time in submitting the blog. I disagree with your figures and have to say that the site is thought provoking, funny and interesting. Yes the guys who produce the mag make contributions but they are merely members of a community and all newcomers should be made to feel welcome. No-one will be interested in every single blog posted but surely that doesnt mean the site should be dismantled. There has been some fantastic discussion over the time I have been contributing and long may it continue. Personally I wasnt interested in the Radiohead feature in this months issue but that doesnt mean that I will unsubscribe - however I may do if you feature Coldplay or U2 next month!!!!!!
Folders?
Perhaps some folders or directories could be used on the blog as a means of filtering the stuff a little better. Personally I couldn’t care less what variety of tracks you listened to on the way to work. The naval gazing essayists can have their own area all to themselves too. It's getting a bit too self-indulgent for my liking.
Self-indulgent?!
Not a bad idea, but how do you separate the blogs? Surely whoever had that task would end up being self-indulgent as they'd design their 'fantasy site', with precedence given to things that interested them.
Self-indulgent or not, it doesn't take 2 seconds to scroll past it. I'd imagine you don't read every single article when you buy a newspaper...
Filtering
Well, that's already available really. Given that you won't know whose entries you want to read or ignore until after you've read them at least once, the trick then would be to bookmark the individual blogs (or subscribe to the rss feed) of those authors.
For instance, if you only wanted to read blogs by Andrew Harrison, you'd bookmark http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/blogs/andrew-harrison or subscribe to the rss feed at http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/blog/6/feed/ - and hey! presto! you only get the content you've chosen to follow.
The downside of this, of course, is you're probably missing out elsewhere - even the most trivial of entries can provoke revealing discussion.
Or... we could add some kind of feature where each new entry comes with an 'I like this' button, and you could filter the results by popularity. This kind of mechanism is used pretty widely, but comes with its own set of problems - popularity charts tend to be self-perpetuating, people tend to vote for people they like regardless of quality, etc etc.
But it always comes back to the same thing: just like anything covering a broad range of subject matter from the perspective of a large numbers of contributors, not everything is going to be to your taste. And there's not much that can be done about that.
I think...
...that now the good weather has kicked in, we should switch to British Summertime Clichés. So, the ubiquitous and honourable "I'll get my coat" should, until September, change to "I'll get my hat". See Twangothan's trailblazing remark above.
He doesn't go to Lichfield Guildhall ever, does he?
Hat. Another strand.
(Guilty of indulging myself to the hilt in the damp and chilly waters of this site far more frequently than is wise or sensible)
Hat strand
What a terrible pun...
Its an anagram, actually.......
(Clue: polish tea-time favourite)
One thing's for sure
It's not a palindrome. A palindrome of hatstrand would be dnartstah! It don't work!
And in the spirit of diversity
Your 80% crap could include my 20% quite interesting. After all, there have been rants and raves about the Radiohead content in this months issue, but I love Radiohead.
It's all part of life's rich pageant, innit.
I'll get me trunks and snorkle...
If 75% is of no interest...
...I'd posit that the remaining 37% is interesting and that is a good thing.
Ahh I see what the OP has done
In order to get a lot of people replying to his post, he's been controversial. He won't catch me out making his number of replies high.....
Boring posts
One person’s boring post is another person’s interesting one. The 75% figures come from the National Guesswork Authority I presume. And I don’t think you can necessarily judge how “interested” people are in a post by how many replies it gets: some topics simply lend themselves more to responses than others. And how long does it take to skim through a post and decide whether you’re interested in it or not? A few seconds. I look at this blog every day and post on it regularly, but I doubt if I spend more than about five to ten minutes a day doing so. Far less than say reading a newspaper. It’s a friendly, entertaining, interesting blog so let’s leave it exactly as it is.
Size isn't always a good measure
In either direction. Mr Backwards7 for example is not known for the brevity of his contributions and yet his posts are always good value.
While some long posts can cause one to glaze over somewhat, it doesn't exactly ruin one's life and it's what the 'scroll down' function was invented for.
Can I be arsed?
I operate a "can I be arsed" filter - sometimes I can be arsed to read long posts, other times not. Sometimes I can be arsed to read other people's current faves (and frequently find something interesting or get my memory jogged about a lost gem) - sometimes I can't. I don't need anything technical to organise this - I like the way it is, a long list of organically grown ramblings, and I read them or not depending on whether I can be arsed or not. Works perfectly! Try it!
Ditto
Can't disagree with any of that
I like the 'listening to'/recent purchase threads...
...indeed there was a mammoth one that might still be running. They can be a useful facility and indeed have been for me in the past. But I must confess, I too have tended to glaze my eyes over at the mammoth topics in recent times. Perhaps it's the accompanying strain of university essays I've been doing, but I kind of like this site to be a break from that!
I haven't done too many topics here myself; I just like to contribute to ongoing threads.
Agreed on the nastiness on certain other music magazine forums; there was one I signed up to but never posted on due to the amount of in-jokes between long-standing members and arguing I observed on there. This blog has not got close to that!
None of it...
...is compulsory. We're free to skip when we want and gambol where we like.
Can I just wish Leeds Boy
all the best in the Play offs - if they make it back to the championship they will face my team Birmingham City who were sadly relegated yesterday. Given the history between the 2 clubs I can then go round singing 'I predict a riot'. There is probably 98 percent of you not interested in this blog so I guess I fucked the percentages up!!
Well
We still have a bit to do but fingers crossed for Thursday and some big games in the Championship.
I suspect 98% was a bit low. I reckon its just us.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS...
... which 75% is of no interest to which 75% of the readership?
75%?
75% of commentators to the guardian music blogs all appear to be ex music journalists trying to maintain their sanity, whilst also stating how much better it was in their day.
I'm new here and new generally - these days, why not just start YOUR OWN web-site if you want to make a name for yourself?
It's very easy to be controversial - very hard to be boring, but I manage it quite well!
Is it me,
or are people taking this post far too seriously?
Not everyone
About 37% are, though
That would mean
that 63% were not taking it seriously enough then
Or that
63% are taking it either a little bit too seriously or EXACTLY seriously enough!
I´m a wee bit lost
I have just come back from holiday from the Highlands , and I´m a wee bit lost. What´s all this with statistics ? Where´s the music, the popular culture, the lighthearted culture exhanges ?
Lies , Damn lies and statistics.
A wee bit?
Oh, come now, that's not very precise, is it? Are you 10% lost, or 20% lost?
50-50
he's on the fence so 50 % each way
Think he'd better...
...mind the splinters
Heaven up here
The view, from the the top of the fence, is quite splendid, and you can see what´s coming at you from both ways.
A wee bit is equal to two small ones or a dram and half a smidgin
Aaah the Highlands
I was walking there last year, God's own country. I have just come back from a weekend in the Peaks and in the Edale visitor centre I espied the lyrics to this song written on the wall and it made me realised why getting out into the hills is much more worthwhile than sitting here responding to other people's blog posts. If this is only of interest to 1 per cent of you then that's enough for me.
Manchester Rambler
(Ewan MacColl)
I've been over Snowdon, I've slept upon Crowdon
I've camped by the Waynestones as well
I've sunbathed on Kinder, been burned to a cinder
And many more things I can tell
My rucksack has oft been me pillow
The heather has oft been me bed
And sooner than part from the mountains
I think I would rather be dead
Ch: I'm a rambler, I'm a rambler from Manchester way
I get all me pleasure the hard moorland way
I may be a wageslave on Monday
But I am a free man on Sunday
The day was just ending and I was descending
Down Grinesbrook just by Upper Tor
When a voice cried "Hey you" in the way keepers do
He'd the worst face that ever I saw
The things that he said were unpleasant
In the teeth of his fury I said
"Sooner than part from the mountains
I think I would rather be dead"
He called me a louse and said "Think of the grouse"
Well i thought, but I still couldn't see
Why all Kinder Scout and the moors roundabout
Couldn't take both the poor grouse and me
He said "All this land is my master's"
At that I stood shaking my head
No man has the right to own mountains
Any more than the deep ocean bed
I once loved a maid, a spot welder by trade
She was fair as the Rowan in bloom
And the bloom of her eye watched the blue Moreland sky
I wooed her from April to June
On the day that we should have been married
I went for a ramble instead
For sooner than part from the mountains
I think I would rather be dead
So I'll walk where I will over mountain and hill
And I'll lie where the bracken is deep
I belong to the mountains, the clear running fountains
Where the grey rocks lie ragged and steep
I've seen the white hare in the gullys
And the curlew fly high overhead
And sooner than part from the mountains
I think I would rather be dead.
Blast
That Blast is a trouble maker
Welcome at last, Guv
I was hoping you'd arrive here one day.
What took you so long?
Signing up
For some reason my two main email addresses are somehow locked in the bowels of the word forum system and I can't activate them so I just started from scratch with a new nick and a thord line email address.
99.3572% of the people reading this will not be interested.
signing up
I'm 1%interested Guv.
Hello Sarah.
Good to see you here too, and I'm about 27.63% interested in knowing if anyone else is heading here.
Never...
...in the field of human communication has so much been said by so few for so long...
Never...
...in the field of human communication has so much been said by so few for so long...
Sorry about the repost - slight problem typing.
Guess it proves my point though...
Good point...
...and I commend your right to have made it. Those not interested can pass by safely on the other side of the page.