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'A certain age' - what's that then?
The Times, in it's (rightfully complimentary) review of the podcast made reference to 'men of a certain age'. Then in another blog blow me, the phrase cropped up again.
I felt a certain irritation at this categorisation...(yes I know, grumpy old man etc)..it feels like some kind of male menopause thing. But then I fell to thinking. What exactly is that certain age? and what is the age of the Word target reader? I am going to make a guess here and say that it's around 47. The correspondents on the website feel about that age. You know, been round the block a bit, essentially optimistic but prone to splenetic outbursts when confronted by another female yodelling 'RnB' b@llocks.
Being astute chaps with multiple magazine launches under their belts no doubt messers Ellen, Hepworth and co know this age to within a couple of weeks - and they target it of course.
Your correspondent is 49.
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So it's soon going to be
So it's soon going to be like the music magazine equivalent of Saga then? Won't be long before we see ads for the Stanna Stairlift and walk-in baths.
Can you turn it up a bit, please?
So, on the basis that Dora Bryan is often the friendly faced, towel-clad glamour model for those walk-in bath & stairlift magazine adverts, who would you think that a good music-related model would be to attract our imminent custom then? Anita Pallenberg perhaps?
Me, I've already got a line of beige cardigans, squashy grey shoes and some lovely fleeces in the production pipeline. I'm launching the nylon zipper jacket tailored in the style of Lewis Leathers next month. Look out for it in the back pages, amongst of all those vinyl listing ads that none of us can read anymore.
What will the 'Rock' generation's oldies look like?
Anita Pallenberg
Excellent choice.
Rock tea towels (see elsewhere) might be right for this particular grey pound niche market also.
LOL!
"but prone to splenetic outbursts when confronted by another female yodelling 'RnB' b@llocks" - I couldn't have put it better myself! Yes... that oh so tedious digital soup - soulless, meaningless, identikit trash, brewed by evil little men with both eyes on the dollar. A stepping stone to selling perfume...
Seriously...
..we don't know, nor do we wish to know.
We don't hold anybody's age against them, be it young or not.
"another female yodelling 'RnB' b@llocks"
"Rn'B bollocks" - yuk
"Females" - even yuckier
Eric Clapton - hurrah!
Lord help us, Jeremy Clarkson's on board.
Hang on a sec
Nope not Clarkson.
But to address the underlying sentiment...
"RnB bollocks" I stand by it 100%
Use of the word 'female' is not sexist per se and probably not even in this context, but perhaps I should have used 'singer' - apologies if I managed to offend yours or anybody elses sensibilities.
"Eric Clapton - hurrah!" Typical! It's the only Clapton Album I've listened to for a while, having been greatly irritated by exerpts from his autobiography. But now I seem to have inadvertantly joined his fan club....bugger.
What have I learned from 2 slapped wrists in one string? - 'never booze and blog' sums it up I think.
Only teasing
Only teasing.
Though isn't to dismiss a whole genre of music, R'n'B, a little bit narrow-minded?
Doo wah diddy
Yeah, Paul Jones, he was all right wasn't he?
I think it's quite justifiable...
slagging off all modern R&B, that is. I have NEVER enjoyed one of those records... in fact, they make me feel physically sick. Play me The Inkspots or any number of truly soulful acts, and I'm gone...
So here's a challenge...
I have teenage kids, hear plenty of modern R&B and find it pretty execrable. BUT in the interests of attempting to keep at least a hint of an open mind, if anybody can recommend something that falls into the genre (as opposed to 60's rhythm and blues -see above) that really is worth a listen then fire away.
Oh go on...
the lot of you; try putting Jamelia's 'Superstar' on without tapping your foot (if it hasn't seized up with mock indignation).
Or 'Push The Button' by the Sugababes. Both little over 3:30 in length, great melodies, catchy choruses and neither of them purporting to be the next generation-spanning songwriters aiming for a Mojo retrospective in 20 years time.
Who cares what it's called? A (good) pop song is a pop song is a pop song.
Oh no - categorisation alert?
At the risk of sounding older than God, is 'Push the Button' R&B? If it is then I'm a convert
You're right about pop songs and so I guess we end up down the cul-de-sac signposted "Music Genre Debates".
I
don't think either of them are R&B as we would know it.
But ask a 15 year old.
Rhianna
I liked that umbrella song - the ella ella bit was a little annoying I suppose. That's R&B in the modern sense isn't it?
Crazy In Love
Beyonce Knowles "Crazy in Love" is (i assume) modern R&B and that's an absolote pearler in my humble opinion. Good use of Chi-Lites sample.
Beyouncy
It was recently announced that Beyonce is actually the love-child of the late entertainer and Record Breaker Roy Castle. Although she was reportedly both surprised and delighted with the news, Ms Knowles has decided against taking her late father's surname.
Oops. I'll get me coat.
"another female yodelling 'RnB' b@llocks"
This is the sort of thing I like to listen to rather than In Rainbows. Don't worry, even my 13-year old daughter teases me for it, buying me bits of "bling" from Claire's Accesories in a spirit of irony. Cheeky bugger.
Good Stuff
Try "Good Stuff" by Kelis. I think this is what the youngsters refer to as 'RnB', and it's as good as anything I've heard all year.
I used to think R&B was Bo Diddley
and not P Diddy, but I now know that Jerry Wexler coined the term to describe commercial black music because he found the term "Race music" somewhat err...horrible. So really it still fits the bill.
top lady R&B tunes?
"Try again" by Aaliyah
"One thing" by Amerie
"Creep" or "No Scrubs" by TLC
"Love like this" Faith Evans
"You're all I need to get by" Mary J Blige/Method Man
give me these over lumpen dadrock any day.
Blige
Good call. Mary's I'm Going Down is also a classic.
Also: the first four tracks on Destiny's Child's Survivor. I'm struggling to think of a stronger opening quartet.
Not to mention
That naughty Kelis, teasing the boys in the yard...
Is this R&B?
I don't care one way or t'other, I just think it's one of the greatest performances I've seen anywhere. Watch the drummer take off at 3:37, carried away by the whole thing
Wow!
That's just stunning. As you say johnsey, who cares what stupid label it has? That's just a band and a vocalist at the absolute top of their game.
Er,
yep, I agree. Excellent. is the song called 'No More Pain' - I can feel an itchy-download finger?
No...
It's called No More Drama and there are 5 versions of it available on iTunes...
I
thank you.
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Careful, Pete
"give me these over lumpen dadrock any day"
Careful, Pete. You can't say that round here. They'll send Neil Young round. With some grizzly bears.
Let him come...and his bears
and I'll scold him for the ticket prices and tell him that John Fogerty's new one is miles better than "Chrome dreams II" anyway!
So there ;)